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Old 09-03-2008, 10:04 PM   #17 (permalink)
Wade8813
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I believe that people are bad. Not everyone is equally bad, and they can be taught be good, but we're born bad.

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The "bad" people are lazy (Sloth) and rather take the simple path of doing bad things rather then man-ing up and taking the better path.
Some of the bad people are too lazy to be better, but some actually enjoy being bad.

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I'm considering the unitarian view (I'm not well-versed about it though). Basically it says, there is no "good", nor "bad" - they're just labels from a dichotomous point of view.
Yes, they're labels from a dichotomous point of view, but that doesn't make them any less accurate. Surely, something makes us different from someone like Hitler.

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uh you guys should check out joseph cambell the mythologist (if thats even a term) he talks about how there is no absolute
I hope he's not saying there's no absolutes at all. Because that's an absolute statement...

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I don't really buy into all the good/evil stuff.

I think most people make choices on a regular basis that sometimes good and sometimes bad.
People aren't inheriantly evil, they just slip up from time to time.
Problem is some people just keep doing it over and over again.
What about the people who aren't slipping up; it's deliberate? Someone does something despicable, and knows it's wrong, and loves it?

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I think you are right, I think that people are inherently good and that they are attracted to what is good, the problem seems to be that humans are limited in their wisdom due to the fact that we are physical bodies, thus corruptible, not supremely good as our creator.
Again, what about someone who does evil just for the sake of doing evil?

Also, what about the fact that we have to teach kids what's right and what's wrong?

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In nearly all circumstances, people are corrupted by their environment, which is like it is due to the nature of the human condition.
So, in other words, it's a vicious cycle of ever increasing corruption. But where did it start? The bad environment corrupting us, or us creating the bad environment?
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