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Old 07-20-2008, 02:06 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I'm not a huge fan of Catwoman, but I do believe in being fair. She is an "Olympic level athlete, superb martial artist, (and) expert thief." And it's not like Joker has any powers.

And while she wouldn't cause the havoc on the city that some villains would, she's much more subtle, and could bring out Batman's detective side. I think she could be great as a secondary villain (and maybe even okay as a primary one).
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Old 07-20-2008, 02:26 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Guys there is a separate thread for discussing the next villain:

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Old 07-20-2008, 03:36 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Nolan doesn't have to top The Dark Knight. I'm not ever sure if that's possible. If he even manages to get it almost as good, it will be so amazing. And even if Heath hadn't died, I don't think they'd have Joker be the main villain two movies in a row. And it's pretty out of character for the Joker to not be the main villain in any movie he's in. Also, a LOT of this movie was still setting up Batman as a character, he's still new at this. They've got so much more they can develop him as he gains experience.
I don't think it was as concentrated on Batman's character as it should have been. The only real emphasis was put on his ability to endure and his incorruptability. It should have called more attention to his contradictions between being Batman as Bruce Wayne and another point that Alfred wasn't as strong of a character in this movie.

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I'm not sure about Two Face, since they ARE trying to cover up that Harvey Dent became him. Maybe they just hope they can lock him up in Arkham, and leave it at that.
Why do people think Two-Face/Harvey Dent is still alive? He's DEAD. They're covering up what happened because if they found out their hero was corruptable they would lose more faith in the integrity of Gotham City.

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Lucius didn't quit - he said he'd be gone as long as the sonar machine was around. It was destroyed - he can stay with Wayne Enterprises.
More plausible than Two-Face being alive at least.

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As for villains, there's Riddler, Catwoman, Penguin, Killer Croc (depending on which version of him they use), Scarface, Bane (if slightly modified), Deadshot, Hush, King Snake, Lady Shiva, David Cain, etc. Admittedly, some of them are virtually unheard of by the general public. But still...

For that matter, it could quite possibly work for Nolan to create a villain of his own.
Many of the more far fetched villains like Killer Croc and Mr. Freeze are would be very difficult and trickey to write into the series without changing the limitations of the movie's reality.

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I'm fairly sure this is the best movie I've ever seen. I hope the next one emphasizes Batman's detective skills (there better be a next one. Otherwise, there will be riots in the streets, some started by various companies behind TDK, who will have realized that it's like printing your own money).
Like I said, Nolan's still on the fence if not skeptical about making another sequel box office record-breaker or not. He cares more about his work then he does money.

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Old 07-20-2008, 05:14 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Now that you guys have seen the movie, do you believe that the Oscar Buzz for Heath Ledger being nominated for Best Supporting Actor is deserving?

Personally I think it's well deserved, it's one of the best performace I've seen in a real long time, and I would defenitely vote for him. If he doesn't get nominated, I believe a lot of people will be angry, especially his cast mates.

Michael Caine even said that he knew from the first shoot that his performance would be outstanding, and if he doesn't get a nomination then he'd like to see the other nominees. That is saying a lot in my opinion, because Michael Caine as been in the movie business for a very long time. So he knows what he's talking about.

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Old 07-20-2008, 05:51 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Now that you guys have seen the movie, do you believe that the Oscar Buzz for Heath Ledger being nominated for Best Supporting Actor is deserving?
I think that he is very deseving, he was acting so well that if nobody told you then it'd be very hard to notice that it was him, it was a very uncommon thing for Ledger to do, it was the first time that he had done anything like it and it was an amazing final performance, but of course the fact that it was his last performance should not affect whether or not he gets it.

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Old 07-20-2008, 11:18 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Now that you guys have seen the movie, do you believe that the Oscar Buzz for Heath Ledger being nominated for Best Supporting Actor is deserving?

Personally I think it's well deserved, it's one of the best performace I've seen in a real long time, and I would defenitely vote for him. If he doesn't get nominated, I believe a lot of people will be angry, especially his cast mates.

Michael Caine even said that he knew from the first shoot that his performance would be outstanding, and if he doesn't get a nomination then he'd like to see the other nominees. That is saying a lot in my opinion, because Michael Caine as been in the movie business for a very long time. So he knows what he's talking about.
I think that Aaron Eckhart is also deserving of an Academy Award nomination. I realize that his outstanding performance is most likely going to be put to the side as everybody is focused on Heath Ledger but I thought Eckhart was just as good
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Old 07-20-2008, 11:29 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Now for Batman: Christian Bale did a great job but I still say his "Batman" voice bothers me. I felt he brought a lot more depth to the role other than the grieving son.
Same here, I know he's got to come up with some way to cover his voice. But Bale's "Batman Voice" sounds to froggy to me. However that was the ONLY thing I had to complain about for this whole movie... trust me it was more than made up for!

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The Bat Bike was one of my favorite things about this movie, I love how it just popped off of the tank/batmobile car thing.
Originally when I saw the pics and the quick glimpses of it in the tv spots and online trailers I was very skeptical. Batman gadgets rock, but for some reason I just didnt feel a "Bat Bike" fit in. Then when I saw the actual movie and how it came about.... I have to say it changed my whole perspective on the Bike. I loved it, very nice touch... I've always been a fan of the many faces of ever bat gadget.

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I think Bane still may be a great choice.

I'm still going to have to disagree with you on Catwoman Italiano. She's nonthreatening and exceedingly boring. Her powers? Boner inducing body and hairballs, two things that should never mix.
Catwoman after the Halle Berry flick has lost all my respect. Phifers Catwoman was cool.... Berry's sucked. I dont want to see her in Nolans Future Movies.

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Deserving? Lmao... He's so Deserving I think they should change the name of the award from the Oscars to the Ledgers! Hands down I wouldnt want to even be the opposition against Ledgers Joker. He deserves every award he possibly can for this performance.

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Old 07-21-2008, 12:54 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Deserving? Lmao... He's so Deserving I think they should change the name of the award from the Oscars to the Ledgers! Hands down I wouldnt want to even be the opposition against Ledgers Joker. He deserves every award he possibly can for this performance.
Haha, I never thought about it that way, renaming the award would be pretty cool but it's so historic of a name that i don't think that they would do that.

He is possibly the best actor of his time.

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Old 07-21-2008, 09:35 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I voted 9/10 for one reason - the casting of Maggie Gyllenhall. She's a very bright, intelligent actress, and I think she played the role too sexy in order to compensate. I agree with whoever said she looked old - I thought she looked much older than Christian Bale & Aaron Eckhart.

I was distracted by the Batman Voice at first, but after the scenes where he's just Bruce Wayne, I thought it worked fine.

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Old 07-21-2008, 11:40 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Gyllenhall? Really? I thought she was the weakest link of the film. She was dry, lifeless, and just generally seemed like she wasn't that interested in being on set.

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