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Old 07-19-2008, 02:44 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I am a huge James Bond fan, i even went to the trouble of creating this picture of me



But honestly, i'm not looking forward to this. After watching the trailor, it looks as though once again we're going to see Bond go "rogue agent", just as he did in License to Kill, and Die Another Day. This will be the third time in the last 5 films it's happend.

The title is excellent, i think. Quantam of Solace is the title of a short story about Bond written by Flemming. It's about a dinner party Bond attends, so the film probably wont draw on it too much/at all.

But yeah, i'm dissapointed that Bond will once again be acting outside of M's orders. It's overdone. An dfrankly, they wont be able to do it better than Dalton did in License to Kill.

Also, i hope the villain is better than Le Chiffre. Granted, he was portrayed accurately from the novel, but it didn't translate well on screen. He's not exciting enough, and Bond didn't even kill him.

Sure, it's not the first time Bond hasn't killed the bad guy, but Roger Moore wasn't tied naked to a chair in For Your Eyes Only. I like the actor they casted, but this "proper sequal" thing just seems like a bad idea to me.
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Old 07-19-2008, 02:47 PM   #12 (permalink)
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i have seen this trailer at the movie theator before, i remember leaning over to the guy next to me and saying " we so need to go see that when it comes out". funny thing is, the person i was with was sitting on the other side of me. lol


but besides that, i too am very excited for this movie to be released.

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Old 07-19-2008, 02:49 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I am a huge James Bond fan, i even went to the trouble of creating this picture of me



But honestly, i'm not looking forward to this. After watching the trailor, it looks as though once again we're going to see Bond go "rogue agent", just as he did in License to Kill, and Die Another Day. This will be the third time in the last 5 films it's happend.

The title is excellent, i think. Quantam of Solace is the title of a short story about Bond written by Flemming. It's about a dinner party Bond attends, so the film probably wont draw on it too much/at all.

But yeah, i'm dissapointed that Bond will once again be acting outside of M's orders. It's overdone. An dfrankly, they wont be able to do it better than Dalton did in License to Kill.

Also, i hope the villain is better than Le Chiffre. Granted, he was portrayed accurately from the novel, but it didn't translate well on screen. He's not exciting enough, and Bond didn't even kill him.

Sure, it's not the first time Bond hasn't killed the bad guy, but Roger Moore wasn't tied naked to a chair in For Your Eyes Only. I like the actor they casted, but this "proper sequal" thing just seems like a bad idea to me.
Ya know? I loved the QoS trailer, at first, but... you're right, I see no surprises coming. At least, none from that trailer. It does look like same ol' same ol'. But I'll see it nonetheless
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Old 07-19-2008, 02:55 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Ya know? I loved the QoS trailer, at first, but... you're right, I see no surprises coming. At least, none from that trailer. It does look like same ol' same ol'. But I'll see it nonetheless
Oh i'll definately go see it too! I'm sure the action sequences will be great, they were in Casino Royale... like the chase at the beginning, and the fight on the stairway, but film left me feeling unsatisfied. Even during Connary's tenure when they had Spectre, and Blowfeld kept escaping, Bond still killed a main bad guy for the film (and it allowed for the single greatest opening sequence ever in For Your Eyes Only, when Bond gets picked up at his wifes grave by Blowfeld, but ends up dropping him down a chimney).

That satisfies me. The way the main baddie is killed is a huge part of the film for me, which is why i like License to Kill a lot. Bond being unconscious whilest someone comes in and saves him, not so much.

Bue yeah, i can't see much new coming out of this film. I wish Roger Moore was young enough to still be Bond, he had the best films.
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:21 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I don't think it's necessary that Bond has to kill every bad guy at the end of every movie. In fact, that might not have been the 'real' Blofeld that got dropped down the smokestack in FOR YOUR EYES ONLY. As established in DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER, Blofeld has a bunch of duplicates running around.

Le Chiffre not an exciting enough villain? I thought he was great. Not every Bond villain has to be all about the world domination thing.

Roger Moore the best Bond? I find it hard to believe that anybody who's seen MOONRAKER and A VIEW TO A KILL can think Moore is the best. But I do respect the fact that for an entire generation he was James Bond and that's the source of the loyalty for his run
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I don't think it's necessary that Bond has to kill every bad guy at the end of every movie. In fact, that might not have been the 'real' Blofeld that got dropped down the smokestack in FOR YOUR EYES ONLY. As established in DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER, Blofeld has a bunch of duplicates running around.

Le Chiffre not an exciting enough villain? I thought he was great. Not every Bond villain has to be all about the world domination thing.

Roger Moore the best Bond? I find it hard to believe that anybody who's seen MOONRAKER and A VIEW TO A KILL can think Moore is the best. But I do respect the fact that for an entire generation he was James Bond and that's the source of the loyalty for his run
It was Blowfeld. The only reason it didn't say that explicitely was to avoid legal action being taken against them, because some other company had the rights to the name after that crappy Connery movie... Never Say Never Again. It was Blowfeld, they went with that scene to underline the fact that Spectre would play no further part in the franchise.

That's not what i didn't like about him... in fact, i think that the way he screwed up so bad he had to make a "hail mary" with the poker game was pretty cool. But other than that, he offerd nothing. Even his henchmen were lame.

Moonraker wasn't as bad as people make out. Sure, it was nowhere near as good as the novel, but it had some of the best scenes in the entire series. The mid air fight for the parachute, the fight on the ski lift thing. The Amazon river boat scene. Awesome. Moore had the best lines, the best moments, and the best films overall i'd say. Octo****, For Your Eyes Only and You Only Live Twice are for me the three best movies ever. Goldeneye is the only that threatens to break Moores dominance in my top 3.

No arguments on a View to a Kill though... that was one film too many for Roger.
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:28 PM   #17 (permalink)
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One thing is for sure, I'm glad to see David Arnold back as the composer. He's done the music for every James Bond movie since Tomorrow Never Dies and I'd say his music is a HUGE part of the movies. Look at the music in the pre-TND Bond movies. It's slow and bland.

David Arnold has brought life to all of the Bond movies he's composed for and he is extremely talented. I hope he continues to compose for the Bond movies for years to come.

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Old 07-19-2008, 03:43 PM   #18 (permalink)
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The massive legal battle over THUNDERBALL, Spectre and Ernst Stavro Blofeld is legendary and way too complicated to go into here. Suffice it to say that Kevin McClory was the guy who for years claimed that he deserved a substantial piece of the James Bond profits because he created Spectre and Blofeld. It's because of McClory's constant legal wars that we've never seen SPECTRE and Blofeld again in a Bond movie. Supposedly in the new Bond movie he's going to meet up with a terorist organization called QUANTUM which is essentially the new SPECTRE.

As for MOONRAKER...oh, man..where do I begin? Hugo Drax is the most boring villain in any movie franchise. Jaws was changed from a truly credible threat into Wile E. Coyote. The fight on the ski lift was unconvincing and poorly co-ordinated. Matter of fact, the only good fight in the whole thing is Bond's glass factory fight against Chang. I could go on and on but I think you get the point.

But when it comes to favorite James Bond actors, Roger Moore is at the bottom of the list for me. OCTO****, FOR YOUR EYES ONLY & THE SPY WHO LOVED ME are his best.
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:50 PM   #19 (permalink)
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The massive legal battle over THUNDERBALL, Spectre and Ernst Stavro Blofeld is legendary and way too complicated to go into here. Suffice it to say that Kevin McClory was the guy who for years claimed that he deserved a substantial piece of the James Bond profits because he created Spectre and Blofeld. It's because of McClory's constant legal wars that we've never seen SPECTRE and Blofeld again in a Bond movie. Supposedly in the new Bond movie he's going to meet up with a terorist organization called QUANTUM which is essentially the new SPECTRE.

As for MOONRAKER...oh, man..where do I begin? Hugo Drax is the most boring villain in any movie franchise. Jaws was changed from a truly credible threat into Wile E. Coyote. The fight on the ski lift was unconvincing and poorly co-ordinated. Matter of fact, the only good fight in the whole thing is Bond's glass factory fight against Chang. I could go on and on but I think you get the point.

But when it comes to favorite James Bond actors, Roger Moore is at the bottom of the list for me. OCTO****, FOR YOUR EYES ONLY & THE SPY WHO LOVED ME are his best.
In the movie version, yeah Drax was lame. If they kept the Nazi element from the novel though, he would have been awesome. I wish they'd remake moonraker and stick to Flemmings version. It would be one of the best Bond films ever. Though... if they didn't change the setting to outer space, we wouldn't have had Q's wonderful line "i think he's attempting re-entry".

I think what they did with Jaws was neccessary. There is a bit when Jaws attacks Manuella at a carnival, and he gets pulled into a conga line allowing Bond and Manuella to escape. Then Jaws just shrugs and goes with it. I think that's a bit of a precurser to his alignment change.

It's by no means one of my favourites, but all Bonds have had a bad film. Connery had Diamonds are Forever, Brosnan had Die Another Day. And i think for what it was, Moonraker was better than those two.

Though, i'm not sure what is more unrealistic. Jaws falling from a plane (and living) or falling in love.

Moore the worst?!?! For me that's Lazenby. OHMSS is awful, plus, he only did the one movie. For me it goes

Moore
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Craig
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Old 07-19-2008, 04:07 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I could have done without Q's "wonderful line" The best thing about MOONRAKER is the Shirley Bassey theme song. When MOONRAKER comes on TV I watch it up until after the credits sequence and then I change the channel.

It was necessary to turn Jaws into a living cartoon? The inappropriate and downright juvenile humor is part of why I dislike the Roger Moore Bonds. Reportedly Moore's feeling was that the Bond movies were so ridiculous that nobody could really take them seriously and most of the 'humor' in his films were his ideas and suggestions and he was the one who keep pushing to put more jokes and one-liners in his Bond films.

When Moore had a director who put his foot down and made him stick to the script and act like James Bond instead of Bugs Bunny in a tuxedo, Moore was a damn good Bond.

The main problem most Bond fans have with ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE is that Sean Connery wasn't playing Bond. For years the movie has been the red-headed stepchild of the James Bond series. But it's actually a pretty damn good movie. It's got the best Blofeld in Telly Savales and the best Bond girl in Diana Rigg. It's also the most faithful adaptation of any of the Bond books. 95% of what happens in the book is up there on the screen.

And I have no problem with George Lazenby's peformance. In fact, he has such a confident attitude and is so relaxed slipping into the role that he comes off a lot better than Roger Moore and Pierce Brosnan did in their first Bond movies.

And I suppose that I should offer my Bond list.

1. Sean Connery
2. Timothy Dalton
3. Pierce Brosnan
4. Daniel Craig
5. George Lazenby
6. Roger Moore
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