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Old 08-21-2008, 02:31 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I would not share with anyone what I'd see.
Looking at it as realistically as possible (if the situation really existed) the glimses of what you'd see (imo) would be vague images of a situation, leaving you with an uncertainty that what you've seen will definately occur or might occur.
Given that a person's actions can change their future, telling anyone what you've seen will not help matters since the future is changable with a blink of an eye.
Playing around with something that hasn't occured yet is not a good idea.

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Old 08-21-2008, 03:20 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Ok, I'll play the game without discussing the philosophical loopholes of seeing into the future and altering the future just by the fact that you've seen in it....


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If you had the ability to see glimpses of the future, would you tell anybody?

Let me set it up so it makes more sense. If you were able to see into somebody's future (whoever you focused on) and saw a glimpse of their future, would you tell them about it? Add on: would you tell them if they DID want to know? Would you tell them if they DIDN'T want to know?
Depends on what I saw. If I see for example whether someone was going to win the lottery, I'd keep it a secret. The surprise part of it is part of the fun. I would probably lead the person into thinking about effectively handling money before that happens. If it's something dangerous and could have been avoided, I would warn the person whether they want to know it or not.


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If you did decide to tell them, and they decided to change it due to not liking the future, it would create a new future for them that could either be worst or better. Now, with that in play, would you tell anybody their future now? Did that make sense?
I would still say (based on my conditions I've stated earlier). It's part of the pain-in-the-arse burden that people who can see the future has to carry. I think I won't be able to live with something bad happening knowing I could have warned the person. If my telling led them to change it for the worst, I'll just warn them again.

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If you want to get specific, would you be willing to tell family more than friends? Willing to tell e-friends rather than family? Willing to tell public figures rather than everybody else? Aw, the possibilities!
Close family and friends (e-friends included). I don't care much for strangers unless the stranger has a big impact on a large group of people (that I perceive, I mean if they're strangers how would I really know).

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Old 08-21-2008, 03:55 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Ok, I'll play the game without discussing the philosophical loopholes of seeing into the future and altering the future just by the fact that you've seen in it....
Impossible. Assuming time is linear, allowing someone to potentially see into the future, If you see a future where you hadn't seen the future, then you can't look into the future (though you may have some other supernatural sight).

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Old 08-21-2008, 08:13 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I can not see how it could be anything other than a continuous singular path. We have the past, present and future all connected or unravelling together.

The reason why I can not believe in multiple dimensions is if I decided to not post in this thread could it really be enough to create a parallel. Every action and outcomes to ever take place would cause can infinite dimensions that would be duplicating at an unprecedented rate. I not only find this thought difficult but do not rate our significance(or any other worldly body to have ever existed) high enough to influence dimensions.
Try taking a look at this, it's what got me thinking about multiple timelines.

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In fact, think about it this way - if we were to assume that time is linear, then wouldn't that make free will moot? Non-existent? No matter what we decide to do, the end result will be the same.

Yes, it may be that determinism decides to put its foot down every now and again, but I refuse to believe that it has the final say in everything, that it is already decided that I will do certain things before I have even done them. I find it much more believable that there is a degree of free will, that different outcomes are created from the possible choices I take.

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Old 08-21-2008, 08:34 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I might be really torn to say something, but if I or someone had the power to see into the future I really don't think it wold matter becuase it will happen some other way, or in most cases the other person won't believe you at all and call you crazy.
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Old 08-21-2008, 08:46 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I would only tell them if they wanted to know.. and if they didn't and I could see they were having problems with lung cancer or something, I would try to give them a hint like you need to go have a chest x-ray done. Or you should get your lungs checked out.. or something along those lines.

I don't think I would really want to see my families future, but I guess I would probably no more or less inclined to tell family and friends versus a random person.
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Old 08-21-2008, 08:54 AM   #17 (permalink)
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The only good I could see from looking into the future would be to try and prevent some awful event from happening to somebody or a group of people.
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Old 08-21-2008, 10:43 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I'd only consider the bad things. Perhaps not telling them straight out but working on a way to help them avoid the event happening. Maybe then though, some of their good moments wouldn't happen. Oh crap, look what we've done!

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Old 08-21-2008, 11:35 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Sorry Vilky hijacking your thread here:

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Try taking a look at this, it's what got me thinking about multiple timelines.
Imagining the Tenth Dimension - A Book by Rob Bryanton
Im sure there are more dimensions, string theory requires that there are seven more than the generic four we are familiar with.

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In fact, think about it this way - if we were to assume that time is linear, then wouldn't that make free will moot? Non-existent? No matter what we decide to do, the end result will be the same.
That is only true if we assume time is already written.

I believe it is still being written and the stylus is the here & now. History is linear, the future will be linear, it is not to say that it already is linear.

The moment(here&now) writes history whilst it continuously advances into the future. The future being an empty void, a blank piece of paper that only has one rule, "it will happen", what happens when it happens is upto the moment before it happens.

The outcome of the future has an infinite possibilities, the only certainty is that one of them will happen, which one? on a human level it is for freewill to decide! Freewill is the ultimate factor in determining what will happen at this moment to make possible the events of the future.

This is why I believe the future is out of reach of us, not because we are not aware of it(like the 6 or 7 other dimensions) but as at present it does not exist, it has not been written to exist yet, we are writing it as we go along. There is nothing to see.....yet!

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Old 08-21-2008, 12:30 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I wouldn't want to mess with anybody's future. If I had the power to do it I doubt I would use it a whole lot. I'd probably use it once and then realise it would be a bad gift to have. People should make their own future. If they knew something was going to happen they'd be focusing on changing it and I imagine it would mess stuff up. I believe everything happens for a reason.

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