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Sometimes just because you can say something in public doesn't mean that you have to.
Doesn't mean you don't have a constitutional right to. You have a constitutional right to say whatever you want despite how stupid it is and how other people feel about it, otherwise we could go ahead and shut down KKK rallies but we cant because their constitutionally protected. I'm with the this is some BS vote.
Probably not. He'd probably just laugh his **** off when 20 cops got locked up for assault and battery, while he got to go free (the charges brought against him are all bull****, like I said) and sue the city for damages. The law is the law, after all.
Oh.. so when "cop killers" get locked up their treated with care? Naw.. the cops know he will only get a slap on the wrist so their going to give him a nice little welcome into the jail cell.
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Originally Posted by Duke1985
Doesn't mean you don't have a constitutional right to. You have a constitutional right to say whatever you want despite how stupid it is and how other people feel about it, otherwise we could go ahead and shut down KKK rallies but we cant because their constitutionally protected. I'm with the this is some BS vote.
You have the Freedom of speech but once you threaten people then your going to jail. Then posting videos in the public waiving weapons around and threatening servants of the state.. they will publicly prosecute you.
I would't say that I like cops but still they have the right to do their job without being threatened by fools.
Last edited by R1pperZ; 06-29-2008 at 09:03 PM.
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You have the Freedom of speech but once you threaten people then your going to jail. Then posting videos in the public waiving weapons around and threatening servants of the state.. they will publicly prosecute you.
I would't say that I like cops but still they have the right to do their job without being threatened by fools.
I'd like to re-point my KKK point. They're constitutionally protected and they make threats all the time. They're a group devoted to hate, so I ask how is that any different from some guy on youtube doing the same thing?
You know, if someone makes a YouTube video about how all e.g. dockworkers should be killed, the cops aren't going to step in and press a bunch of nonsense charges on the guy. So why are they doing it here? It's obvious. They took personal offense to what the guy said, and used their authority to exact revenge. There's no way that assault charge, for example, is going to stick; because it only applies to people threatening immediate harm to someone (like waving a gun in their face). Every cop knows that, and---last I checked--a YouTube video can't fire bullets through internet tubes.
This is a pretty cut-and-dry case of cops abusing their authority to stop someone from exercising their freedom of speech. If they want to petition YouTube to remove the videos on their own time, that's fine. If they want to confront the guy on their own time, that's fine. It's just indefensible for them to exact revenge on this guy qua cops. That's not what we pay our public servants to do. Plus, I'm pretty adamant about freedom of speech. Voltaire once said, "I may disagree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." It's not good when a dead French playwright seems to have a leg up over Philly cops when it comes to American values.
"God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh." -Voltaire
Last edited by ExpectantlyIronic; 06-29-2008 at 10:17 PM.
You know, if someone makes a YouTube video about how all e.g. dockworkers should be killed, the cops aren't going to step in and press a bunch of nonsense charges on the guy. So why are they doing it here? It's obvious. They took personal offense to what the guy said, and used their authority to exact revenge. There's no way that assault charge, for example, is going to stick, because it only applies to people threatening immediate harm to someone (like waving a gun in their face). Every cop knows that, and---last I checked--your image caught on film can't fire bullets through internet tubes.
This is a pretty cut-and-dry case of cops abusing their authority to stop someone from exercising their freedom of speech. If they want to petition YouTube to remove the videos on their own time, that's fine. If they want to confront the guy on their own time, that's fine. It's just indefensible for them to exact revenge on this guy qua cops. That's not what we pay our public servants to do.
Plus, I'm pretty adamant about freedom of speech. Voltaire once said, "I may disagree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." It's not good when a dead French playwright seems to have a leg up over Philly cops when it comes to American values.
Go tell the judge who issued the warrant.
Plus I'm guessing it wasn't a "cop" who requested that a warrant be issued.
oh, right on. Didn't think of that.
My guess would be it probably was a cop, I'm not sure a DA or a Judge would believe those charges would actually stick, although I'm not saying they guy in the video is a such a smart guy, he might just roll over and eat the charges.
Judges often won't let people plead guilty when they're not (at least, in my experience). Who knows, though, I'm sure things work differently everywhere. More likely than not, he'll plead not guilty, cut a deal with the prosecutor, and get convicted of the least serious of the charges. That's just how the system tends to work. Now, the best thing to do, would probably be to try to get the ACLU to step in pro bono, and use their lawyers to fight the whole lot of charges.
"God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh." -Voltaire
Last edited by ExpectantlyIronic; 06-29-2008 at 10:50 PM.
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