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Old 10-29-2008, 05:49 PM
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Not Obama again...

I spent a while typing this up… bear with me here.

Let's dig into Obama's background to see if he has the right qualifications to be president.

The guy can't even produce an original birth certificate to prove his citizenship.

That alone should call his entire campaign into question.


Forget the questions about Ayers, Acorn, Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae, Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezco, The “New Party”, angry Obama supporters carving B's into women's faces, his connections with George Soros, Warren Buffet, and other multi billionaire global leftists, foreign money being filtered into private accounts to make them appear to be "small donations"... This stuff just doesn't seem to matter compared to say Sarah Palin who was just a small town mayor and the Governor of the state of Alaska.

Just look at his record. As a state senator he voted present more often than he voted up or down. That is not leadership.

YouTube - Edwards Calls Out Obama on Lame "Present" Vote


He has spent the vast majority of his 3 years in the senate running for president. When he has voted his votes have been with the liberal far left. He presides over the most unpopular congress in US history.

Obama is a willing empty suit who will take his marching orders from global tycoons bent upon manipulating the American economy to their financial advantage at the expense of our freedom.

I believe that government has proven to be corrupt unless it is kept at as minimal a size as possible. McCain may not be my ideal choice, but Obama is my nightmare. He is a nightmare to all freedom loving Americans. If Obama wins at least I will be able to say that I was not stupid enough to fall for the false American Idol.

“If you are then may you receive what you have wrought tenfold”.

(An old Middle Eastern Curse)



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  #2 
Old 10-29-2008, 06:19 PM
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I actually had to laugh at this one... McCain's been voting for tax breaks for the wealthy for how many years now? 20 at least, and you're saying that Obama is in the pocket of billionares? Look at what he's trying to do economically. Throwing out the trickle down idea and putting in place of it a stronger middle class. With McCain it's more of the same old ****. With Obama, even if he turns out to be a ****ty president, at least he won't be as bad as Bush.
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:17 PM
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The guy can't even produce an original birth certificate to prove his citizenship.

That alone should call his entire campaign into question.
It may not be guns or religion, but you're certainly clinging to something.

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Forget the questions about Ayers, Acorn, Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae, Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezco, The “New Party”, angry Obama supporters carving B's into women's faces, his connections with George Soros, Warren Buffet, and other multi billionaire global leftists, foreign money being filtered into private accounts to make them appear to be "small donations"...
Finally, some common sense.

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He presides over the most unpopular congress in US history.
Where did you get this idea? In no way, shape or form does he "preside over" this senate. And do you even know why the senate is unpopular? It's because they're not far enough to the left.

Yep, it looks like you're behind the times. America's political outlook is shifting. The current congress was elected to end the war, end the bush tax cuts and stand up to the injustice of the past 8 years. They've failed in that effort. Not only failed, but become part of the system. No impeachment? The approval of FISA? Not a thing has been accomplished for the democrats.

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Obama is a willing empty suit who will take his marching orders from global tycoons bent upon manipulating the American economy to their financial advantage at the expense of our freedom.
And you call me a conspiracy theorist?

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I spent a while typing this up… bear with me here.
Really? Because from here, this just looks like a list of disproved lies and myths that have been circulated in a few too many emails.
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:46 PM
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Back at ya...

YouTube - OCTOBER SURPRISE obamas Birth certificate BLUNDER!


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Finally, some common sense.
Don't twist my words around to avoid the topic at hand. If you want to get into a separate debate about this there are other threads about it.

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Where did you get this idea? In no way, shape or form does he "preside over" this senate. And do you even know why the senate is unpopular? It's because they're not far enough to the left.
I find it very difficult to believe people like socialism. Especially the job producers in this country. You know it says something when Wall St. and stock holders are holding their breath for Obama. They are getting rid of their stocks and shares like crazy. How about the fact that the Dolphins owner says he's going to SELL the Dolphins to avoid Obama's bureaucratic bull**** and taxes. He already donates 100 million a year to charity, but that means nothing.

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Yep, it looks like you're behind the times. America's political outlook is shifting. The current congress was elected to end the war
Stop living in 2003. We have won in Iraq. Sorry to burst your bubble but were leaving because we have won, not because we lost and/or retreating. I know victory is a hard word for you to swallow.

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end the bush tax cuts and stand up to the injustice of the past 8 years.
You mean the same kind of tax cuts that Reagan did that boomed the economy and lowered unemployment until 2006 when the Democrats took control of Congress?

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And you call me a conspiracy theorist?
Two letters... U.N.

That's hadly a conspiracy. A little research will show you the U.N. wants to undermine United States soverienty and constitution. Obama is going to make it easier for them. Even tho the Supreme Court says no treaty trumps the Constitution w/o the proper amendment process.

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Really? Because from here, this just looks like a list of disproved lies and myths that have been circulated in a few too many emails.
Apparently not.
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Old 10-29-2008, 08:11 PM
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I've got another one for you Pro that I feel is more telling.

Obama's aunt lives in the slums of Boston. Obama's 1/2 brother lives overseas on $12/year. It well documented that Obama gives almost nothing to charity and Biden gives nothing. Their plan is to tax the wealthy so that people like Obama's aunt and 1/2 brother can get some help in life.

Its just a fundamental difference between conservatives and liberals. I am middle class and I feel uneasy about saying what I give, but its more than Biden and more than Obama in the past years. Percentage wise its off the charts comparatively.

They've(Biden and Obama) got to have the government involved in the process or else they won't give.
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Old 10-29-2008, 08:27 PM
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Back at ya...
Or not
Barack Obama's birth certificate revealed here | Top of the Ticket | Los Angeles Times
snopes.com: Barack Obama Birth Certificate
FactCheck.org: Born in the U.S.A.
Daily Kos: State of the Nation



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I find it very difficult to believe people like socialism.
A: You have not the slightest clue as to what socialism is and
B: The democrats arn't socialists. If they were, I'd be behind them a lot more.

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Especially the job producers in this country. You know it says something when Wall St. and stock holders are holding their breath for Obama. They are getting rid of their stocks and shares like crazy.
People selling stocks when the economy is nose diving? Shocking. This has nothing to do with Obama.

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How about the fact that the Dolphins owner says he's going to SELL the Dolphins to avoid Obama's bureaucratic bull**** and taxes. He already donates 100 million a year to charity, but that means nothing.
If America has been getting its financial advice from the Miami Dolphins, maybe the republicans arn't to blame after all.

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Stop living in 2003. We have won in Iraq. Sorry to burst your bubble but were leaving because we have won, not because we lost and/or retreating. I know victory is a hard word for you to swallow.
Orwell much? We won? Your idol begs to differ.
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It would be a grave mistake to leave before Al Qaeda in Iraq is defeated and before a competent, trained, and capable Iraqi security force is in place and operating effectively. We must help the Government of Iraq battle those who provoke sectarian tensions and promote a civil war that could destabilize the Middle East. Iraq must not become a failed state, a haven for terrorists, or a pawn of Iran. These likely consequences of America's failure in Iraq almost certainly would either require us to return or draw us into a wider and far costlier war.

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“I do not want to keep our troops in Iraq a minute longer than necessary to secure our interests there...
So if we've won and he doesn't want to overstay, why hasn't McCain called for the immediate withdrawal of the troops?

The surge failed. Stop living in 2002.

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You mean the same kind of tax cuts that Reagan did that boomed the economy and lowered unemployment until 2006 when the Democrats took control of Congress?
No, because that makes no sense. The economy's been declining long before the the democrats took office. Talk of recession didn't just appear 20 minutes ago, which seems to be America's attention span. It's been on the table since Bush's 1st term. And who did they blame it on? Clinton, which as I remember, had a republican congress that voted for the deregulation that collapsed the economy. As for Reagan...

Barack Obama and Joe Biden: The Change We Need | Taxes

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Middle class families will see their taxes cut – and no family making less than $250,000 will see their taxes increase. The typical middle class family will receive well over $1,000 in tax relief under the Obama plan, and will pay tax rates that are 20% lower than they faced under President Reagan. According to the Tax Policy Center, the Obama plan provides three times as much tax relief for middle class families as the McCain plan.

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Two letters... U.N.

That's hadly a conspiracy. A little research will show you the U.N. wants to undermine United States soverienty and constitution. Obama is going to make it easier for them. Even tho the Supreme Court says no treaty trumps the Constitution w/o the proper amendment process.
The irony is still crushing. If the powers of globalism that be have a plan to incorporate the US into a global government, why would it matter who is president? If this is what you believe, surely both candidates would be their pawns, no?
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