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Originally Posted by Arcadoc
If you want a really close look at government-run health care, you should pay a visit to some VA hospitals.
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You should pay a visit to Canada.
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The health care personnel are great, but the system is so overloaded that there aren't enough personnel, or enough beds, or enough medications to serve all the individuals who are waiting in ever-increasing lines. It's not unusual for a patient who drastically needs an operation to have to wait many weeks, months or in some cases even years.
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All true, and a national shame. The bureaucracy desperately needs overhauling, maybe something like...
reform.
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This is exactly what is going to happen to every one of our hospitals and medical facilities in a government run operation.
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That you can't say in fairness. Nobody is suggesting broadening the outdated and inadequate VA model, are they? In fact, didn't Obama himself speak out against that disgraceful system, saying that he wanted to see better care for vets?
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Al Gore said a few years ago that the Earth only had 10 years to survive
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Which radio snake oil salesman gave you that bottle of bull**** to pass around? If you're chowdering the quote that I think you are, what Gore did was to repeat the scientific assessment that action neded to begin within ten years or the damage caused could be more than we can fix. But screw it, why bother with checking the details when we call somebody a fool, and why err on the side of caution when the message doesn't mesh with our comfortingly rigid ideology? We're only talking about the one habitable planet within our means to reach, no big.