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Old 01-17-2007, 06:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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religion roots!

There is a root for everything right? Well you all know that I believe the root of Christianity is Genesis 1:1, well, the root of life is, the root of Christianity would be the start of Jesus Christ. But it is obvious not all of you believe this.
So whats your belief?

Where do you believe/statistically believe Christianity, religions such as buddhism, etc. started?

I'm mostly looking for statitistics here, facts to go along with what you believe.

What do I believe? Other religions blah I couldn't say, don't know their history that much I never liked studying religions and their roots so much, you might call me a blind Christian but I don't care. I know statistically their was a man who 2000 years ago that did miraculous things, which aligned with the prophecies of the scriptures. I see that scientists always try to make Jesus like a magician, like He was a smart man who faked miracles, they always say someting stupid like the guy who said Jesus could walk on water because that lake was frozen, well the people who claimed to see Jesus walk on water were in a boat, so they were in a frozen lake on a boat? Things like that.

So I don't intend this to be a debate on belief thread, such as "well Christianity is fake because the bible has contradictions" its a thread that is on roots so don't go offtopic again on me ;) as most of my threads get. So debate statistically, like "your wrong about where buddha originated..." etc. So have fun, where should you start? Start off maybe someting like "Well I believe religion as a whole started..." or "Well, buddhism started....and I believe Christianity started..." etc.

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Old 01-17-2007, 07:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The root of Christianity isn't Jesus, as he's only part of the overall faith. Almost all of Christianity is reused Judaism, which is reused Babaloniyan, Zorastrian, and Egyptian faith.
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Old 01-17-2007, 09:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Also, Christianity would have gotten nowhere if it wasn't for Roman Emperor Constantine. He was the first man to actually place Christianity in a role of power, imposing it upon Romans as the nation's religion.

It's hard to trace roots because evidence must be interpreted and interpretations never lack bias. It's impossible. You interpret what you want to. If a Christian man were to discover a hypothetical book that details Jesus as a fake and a terrible man, he would either find a way to discredit the book or burn it. Just as if a man who were against Christianity would embrace it and publish it in massive quantities as soon as possible.

It's kind of silly to think that the bible gives us an accurate description of Christianity's roots because one, there are many versions (interpretations that is) of the bible and two, because it was written by so many people and also organized in different ways by so many people.

In the end we're all just chalk lines on the concrete, drawn only to be washed away . .
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Old 01-17-2007, 09:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Besides the whole fact that there is no concrete evidence that Jesus existed, and his supposed miracles.
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Old 01-17-2007, 09:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Besides the whole fact that there is no concrete evidence that Jesus existed, and his supposed miracles.
We assume Jesus existed because there are others accounts of him, not all of them the bible.

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Old 01-18-2007, 09:02 AM   #6 (permalink)
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The root of religion can be found in the mind of man.
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Heh, you may want to keep that to yourself. As much as I agree with you, telling the religious crowds that their beliefs are all from human imagination is just asking for a stoning.



But I do agree.

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Old 01-18-2007, 06:11 PM   #8 (permalink)
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The Apostle-to-the-Gentiles is the Father of Christianity. The Apostle Paul's uncontested letters are the roots of gentile Christianity. Great book out there by Wayne Meeks. His book on the writings of Paul. I need another copy for myself cause I gave it away.
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Old 01-18-2007, 06:30 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The Apostle-to-the-Gentiles is the Father of Christianity. The Apostle Paul's uncontested letters are the roots of gentile Christianity. Great book out there by Wayne Meeks. His book on the writings of Paul. I need another copy for myself cause I gave it away.
he didn't write the first books though, at least from what I've learned. he wrote some yes, but there were others, from all over the world that others wrote before him.

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Besides the whole fact that there is no concrete evidence that Jesus existed, and his supposed miracles.
theres no concrete evidence for almost any history, egyptians etc. we have hieroglyphics etc. but yeah. theres others ;)

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The root of religion can be found in the mind of man.
haha yes, but i never say that Christianity is a religion for that reason. religion is made up, Christianity is of God instead of men's minds.
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Old 01-18-2007, 07:34 PM   #10 (permalink)
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His uncontested letters (Romans, Corinthians, Galatians, Philippians, First Thessalonians, and Philemon) are the oldest writings of the New Testament. There is lots of juicy stuff to read of course. Lots of cool stuff that didn't get into the A.D.389 NT canon.

And down through history really neat stuff to read from the theologians.

Raddmad, it's been some time since I've actively studied this stuff. It wasn't in school or anything, just a hobby.

Christianity is a spin-off from Judaism. I like the history. But I think you will find that, in fact, the oldest writings of Christianity are the uncontested letters of Paul.

saying Paul is the true founder of Christianity is always a good way to push buttons.
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